I Dare To Go Where No Man Has Gone Before: A Nina Einstein Character Analysis

Let’s Get The Ball Rolling With The Main Issue Regarding Nina’s Character

For some reason the only thing I have any real interest in writing about is Code Geass and another topic that has come up in the theme of alternative analysis that I’ve been interested in pursuing is what to make of the character of Nina Einstein.  Most bloggers I’ve found will stop at telling you how much they hate her, but I think few have actually bothered to try and look at everything that has happened to her and to try and understand what makes her tick.  That is why as a way of trying to do something I hope is unique from other bloggers, I bring people a forbidden subject, one that already has me pondering if most people will just gloss over for  thinking I’m insane for not sticking to the popular narrative of Nina hate and that there’s something more tragic in her character.  Yes it’s time for a character analysis of Nina Einstein.

First I have to thank the Animanchronism for giving me the idea to talk about his character.  The guy has inspired more then his share of my articles as well as been a beacon of just plan covering things that nobody else I can think of would even think to look at.  So thanks again Animanchronism for providing a much needed dose of new to the blogosphere.

She’s Actually Really Talking About Herself

In Reality An Inner Monologue Spoken Vocally As She’s Imagining Millay As Her Former Self

Another Hint That She Somewhat Realizes She’s Talking To Herself And Realizes The Hypocrisy

So from the get go Nina was always portrayed as a somewhat introverted socially awkward type with an unexplained hatred of Japanese people, and I’ve been entertaining the thought that perhaps her unexplained hatred of Japanese people is actually a hatred of herself.  Essentially I believe Nina is a character that has never been able to define what role she fits into in society, and the Japanese citizens who also have had their roles denied from them serve to remind Nina of that what I believe she loathes most, herself.  Essentially the only thing that had been keeping Nina going during the early Ashford Academy days was the support from her friends and later her admiration for Euphemia who stood up to take on the role as a saviour and left an impression on Nina.

By Giving Her Some Motivation That Got The Ball Rolling Towards Finding An Identity

It’s at that point I think that Nina started to develop dreams of Euphemia as the ideal role she would like to fulfill and she sought to try and understand her as much as she could in order to develop the traits that she thought Euphemia portrayed.  When she found out that Euphemia wasn’t who she imagined she was during the special autonomous zone arc in the first season, (the fact that she sought to give the Japanese people back there roles I don’t think outrage Nina so much in terms of racist tendencies as much as Nina was crushed that it wasn’t her that Euphemia was recognizing in her desperation to define herself somehow) she probably had feelings of uncertainty that she was never able to resolve before Euphemia’s demise and this probably resulted in the temporary meltdown we saw in Nina where she just gave up on life (episodes 24-25 of season 1), taking on suicidal tendencies and seeking to take as many people with her as she could.  Essentially her story doesn’t seem to be much unlike the tragic story you often here behind a school shooting where the perpetrator is described as a quiet, introverted bookish type who nobody ever paid attention to and whose problems with fitting into society at least on some level caused them to develop a hatred of it that erupts into a flurry of violence at the end of which they take their own lives.  Luckily Nina was saved by chance as were many characters in the first season from whatever tragedy befell them as a result of fate or their actions and with the second season (again like most characters) she has a chance to make things right.

The thing is, Nina’s main character flaw at the moment (in my opinion) that causes her to be so unstable seems to be that she never really truly understood Euphemia like Lelouch and Nunally and the fact that she never really got to know her idol before her untimely death nor why she sought to provide a special autonomous zone for the Japanese seems to have left her in a state of flux as she graduated from high school and moved into her position in Schneizel’s weapons development department. Not to mention that with graduation she lost the one grounding force she had in the student council group.  Essentially she needs to come to terms with Euphemia’s legacy before she can move on with her life and it’s causing outbursts like the type where she said to Millay that she never really tried to understand her or something to that regard.  Also noting the fact that she’s started dressing like Euphemia (in episode 09) makes me think that she’s trying to become Euphemia in order to come to this understanding that she needs to reach, but also has a desire to be identified as a person unique to herself.

That’s Because Nina Is Not Euphy And You Are Staving Off Her Mental Recovery/Progress By Trying To Make Her Euphemia

She Doesn’t Even Know Herself

Essentially she’s being pulled in opposite directions and it doesn’t help that Schneizel is confusing her even further with all the talk about what Euphemia was like.  Right now she is headed in the wrong direction.  She cannot solve her personal issues by becoming what she imagines Euphemia is like, she has to know what Euphemia was like and become a Nina that has a place in society.  Right now she has a place in society, but is unfortunately her own worst enemy in trying to be someone else and failing to realize it.  The fact that Nina has such potential as an intellectual, but can’t seem to realize it in what I believe is self-loathing is what leads me to think of her more as a tragic character then one to be hated like the blogosphere and forum goers seem to jump at the tendency to do, and really I think that’s exactly the kind of thing that would cause her to be the way she is in the first place if we were to exist in her dimension and let her know that she is hated rather then pitied.  I guess she’s lucky that she has people like Millay around who even back in episode 05 showed that she was worried about her and dreams of a day when the group of Ashford friends can stand as one and not the blogosphere or by god the girl would have taken her life the episode after her problems became apparent.

Then Who Are You?

Speaking of Millay her outburst at Millay can also be interpreted as misplaced rage at the fact that she has yet to move on with her life and is stuck in a state of flux with no defined self.  Essentially I think it drives home the point even further that Nina’s real issue is a case of unwitting self-loathing and the idea that she can’t fit into society along with the way she reacted to all the ridicule she was getting from the Britannian nobles as she walked down the aisle with Schneizel.

To Have One Acknowledge You Nina You Must First Be Able To Acknowledge Yourself, Only Then Can You Begin the Healing

So really I’m no psychologist, but I think Nina might have to first reject the identity of Euphemia that Schneizel is trying to force on her and acknowledge and seperate the part of her that wants to deny the fact that she hasn’t defined herself yet in how she fits into society and only then will she be able to redeem herself and move on in life.  For now it’s not going to be easy, but I think that if Millay and Karen were able to get through to her somewhat after her breakdown that she may be closer to it then we might think.

Well I hope people at least read that and might take it into consideration before they go mercilessly hating on Nina again.  I seriously don’t think she’s an inherentely evil character so much as one who has yet to find her direction in life and as such has been easily influenced by Schneizels ideals and Britannia’s propaganda.  At this point she’s possibly so desperate that she might accept any role and that’s not exactly good for her nor what she needs.  It’s a sad fate and I truly hope things work out for her as I think she’s one of the most tragic characters in the show.  Next article won’t be a Code Geass one I promise for those who are gettign tired of the same old subject.  No, I don’t think anyone can predict the next one.  See Ya…


24 Responses to “I Dare To Go Where No Man Has Gone Before: A Nina Einstein Character Analysis”

  1. 1 Choux June 14, 2008 at 12:04 am

    Her name’s Einstein? Wow.
    Not my favorite character but great analysis.

  2. 2 Fang-tan June 14, 2008 at 2:03 am

    I love Nina. She’s my favorite after Cornelia. She just barely beats Anya for me. Nice analysis. I really can’t stand how underrated she is.

    Thank you, thank you for such a wonderful analysis. Hopefully this might change some people’s minds.

  3. 3 EvilDevil June 14, 2008 at 4:41 am

    most people hate her, yet they seem to be missing something. I love her because she is the most human and complex to understand. most people push her aside because of her racist or prejudice and fears, her doubts and uncertainty… the ugly part of what means to be human, and they shun her. but i welcome her, because it is time to realise characters like her is so rare to find, let alone enjoy (for me anyway).

  4. 4 Owen S June 14, 2008 at 7:03 am

    Fantastic analysis. I think I can begin to understand her just that little bit more after reading this. Thank you.

  5. 5 Geoffrey June 14, 2008 at 9:06 am

    I guess you could compare her with Flay of CE Gundam fame, who was the only good character in that show.

    Indeed she shows some sort of dislike for the Japanese and strange obsession over her hero, but she’s probably one of the more enjoyable characters to look at. Truth be told, she’s probably the character I wish got more screentime in Geass, instead of the cranking on the fanservice machine called Karen and CC (and looking how things are going, probably the rest of the female cast in some way or another).

    “Well I hope people at least read that and might take it into consideration before they go mercilessly hating on Nina again.”

    You’re telling this to Anime fans. The typical Anime fan is a dumbass, to put it bluntly, or plain lazy/too tired to think as ‘deep’ as you.

  6. 6 deathkillz June 14, 2008 at 11:42 am

    The fact that Nina has such potential as an intellectual, but can’t seem to realize it in what I believe is self-loathing is what leads me to think of her more as a tragic character then one to be hated like the blogosphere and forum goers seem to jump at the tendency to do, and really I think that’s exactly the kind of thing that would cause her to be the way she is in the first place if we were to exist in her dimension and let her know that she is hated rather then pitied.

    I think here is a point that comes down to the type of viewer you are. For some it is a lot easier to emphasize with and I’m usually pretty easily moved. Though in the case of Nina, despite what complexity and tragic experience she is going through I still can’t find her character likeable. Yes, I do pity her but that kind of pity leads me to feel that someone should end her misery already rather than save her (that’s if she CAN be saved…). Psychological therapy that’s what she needs.

  7. 7 The Animanachronism June 14, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    How can I not comment when the second paragraph is directed at me? ‘Where No Man Has Gone Before’ is pretty much right: I wouldn’t say I hate Nina, but she’s never grasped my attention (apart from that startling scene with the table) so I’ve never considered what might make her tick. I think you’re spot on with the problem of her unresolved admiration of Euphemia, and how Schneizel’s not helping by focusing on how Euphemia used to act.

    Now I think about it, I see how Nina is a fairly tragic figure: looking back at her behaviour in the first season’s finale I suppose she might actually provoke pity rather than hatred. This is an interesting study in how we can build quite complex ideas on the evidence the show provides – and I always find the interaction (hatred or adoration) between anime fans and actual characters very interesting.

    I like Geoffrey’s suggestion that she’s comparable in some ways to Flay, too.

  8. 8 DavyRam June 14, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    Hmmm. I must admit that although I don’t hate Nina as much as some people, she’s always been an easy character to write off. Shy, rascist, Euphie obsessed psycho lesbian. Next! The fact that she feels an absence of identity rings true, the fact that she only gives away her sexual identity with an off hand remark (played for laughs) and the fact that it is only realised she’s a stone cold genius because Lloyd happened to be in the right place at the right time suggests that she gives nothing of herself away (as you point out, putting the exchange with Milly in a new light – not that her comments aren’t true of Milly as well), and has absolutely no sense of pride or self awareness. Hence her hero worship of Euphie – she presumed that Euphie saved her because she saw Nina as special and worthy, the only one to do so, when in actuality Euphie only does so because she is pure goodness. She has found herself a place – as an important weapon researcher. She does not realise this because she has no sense of self worth, and so she continues to attempt to make herself feel important in relation to Euphie, either through emulation or her continuing obsession with vengenace. The rationale for her racism seems a little weak, tho. Possibly because, having no identity, she blindly accepts Brittanian values? Out of a general hatred of the unknown stemming from her introversion? Hey,you got me thinking about the character at least. Good, insightful stuff.

    With regards to Nina being turned into a copy of Euphie, I find that more interesting in relation to Schneizel than Nina. Everything else about Schneizel sets himup as Lelouch’s nemesis, a cold tactical genius. His pre introduction establishment as the only one to defeat Lelouch in chess, the cast’s “oh hell” reaction when it’s found out he’s coming in season 1, his ability, to see the benefits of Euphie’s special administration zone in neutering Zero’s support (unlike Cronellia, who’s judgement was clouded by her inability to think outside of Brittanian racial values), his re-introduction pulling off a political coup, forcing Lelouch into a moral defeat from a stalemate. Buuuut trying to re-make a girl into a copy of your dead sister is, put bluntly, screwed up, implying that the logical plotter has his mental weaknesses, similar to Lelouch’s obsession with Nunally. On the other hand, he never showed an obsession with Euphie, so what does this tell us? An obsession with social standing, trying to pull a very creepy “My Fair Lady” gig on the girl he’s interested in by styling her as a princess? But then, having an interest in a woman for anything other than political purposes seems out of character anyway…

    So yes, an article I found interesting and stimulating, and thereofre successful. The masturbatory first paragraph was ridiculous though. Self-praise is always suspicious, and is especially so when contrasted with cowardly, non-specific insults to the masses. An interesting analysis is interesting on it’s own merits, you do yourself a disservice with such insecurity-betraying preening.

  9. 9 Kaioshin Sama June 15, 2008 at 5:04 am

    @Choux: Yes Nina Einstein. and knowing Sunrise I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they set her up as being a descendent of the original. They’ve shown they don’t mind using real world figures in the most unexpected of ways (Escaflowne).

    @Fang-Tan: I’m surprised anyone would rate Anya so high this soon. We don’t really know much about her besides the quiet loli factor. At this point, at least for me, she’s still just an archetype I’m afraid to say.

    @EvilDevil: The problem is that it’s easier to hate then understand so really I just think it’s an effort issue.

    @Owen S: Good to hear. 🙂

    @Geoffrey: The thing with Fllay is she was one of the only characters that I felt actually had some well written character flaws. It’d be boring if characters like Nina didn’t exist because there needs to be somebody to provide a counterpoint to the other Ashford Academy characters who are all pretty much goody two shoes. I’ll abstain from commenting on your last sentence because I don’t want to get in trouble.

    @Deathasaurus Rex: A character doesn’t have to be likeable to have some depth, which is the point I think a lot of people seem to be missing.

    @The Animanachronism: I wonder if some people think that sizing her up would be like a face to face interview with Hannibal Lecter without the mask on.

    @DavyRam: Sunrise likes to have what MAHQ’s Chris labels the “traitor villain” in their mecha anime. Basically it’s a guy that moves in just as the person we think is the bigshot villain is about to make their big move and takes over the operation by proving himself smarter in the end and fooling the bigshot. It can be seen as recently as Gundam 00 in fact where Ribbons outsmarted Alejandro and took over things from him (on the moon still with Veda I think), but other examples include Kycilia Zabi from Mobile Suit Gundam, Paptimus Scirocco from Zeta Gundam, Gremi Toto from ZZ Gundam, Tashiro from V Gundam, Urube Ishikawa from G Gundam, Quinze from Gundam Wing, Bishot Hate from Dunbine, Doba Ajiba from Ideon, the list goes on. Anyway I think that Schneizel may be that traitor villain.

  10. 10 The Sojourner June 16, 2008 at 10:14 am

    I see her as someone who is trying to affirm her existence really hard. Her interactions with others are quite redundant and are more like soliloquys to me.

  11. 11 masterkeyes2 June 16, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    I have to admit I never really gave Nina as much thought as other characters in the series. However after your last episode blog with mention on Nina I decided to go back and watch some of the episdoes featuring her.

    Nina is a tragic character, and I sense this thing with Euphie is only the latest one. When watching episode 12 I remember Millay saying. “Don’t worry, its not like the Ghettos..we won’t leave you alone again,” that lead me to believe she was either abused or attacked in some way by the Japanese living there, hence her hatred of “Elevens”.

    One thing I never considered is her trying to be Euphie, like you said.
    I already gathered she saw her as a goddess but never thought she would try and be like Euphie.

    “Anyway I think that Schneizel may be that traitor villain.”

    Hehe maybe when more info is released on him you do a character analysis for him, he seems complicated enough.

    “You’re telling this to Anime fans. The typical Anime fan is a dumbass, to put it bluntly, or plain lazy/too tired to think as ‘deep’ as you.”

    That seems a little harsh don’t you think?

  12. 12 JW17 June 17, 2008 at 12:20 am

    @ DavyRam: It’s completely in character, because Schneizel is intererested in Nina for political purposes.

    He’s buying into Nina’s Euphy complex so she will be completely loyal to him. Nina is obviously a gifted person with a knack for weapons development. By feeding her fantasy he can get her to build whatever advanced weaponry he needs to further his quest for power.

  13. 13 Sorrow-kun June 18, 2008 at 1:26 am

    I’ve always thought of Nina as a fascinating character. I understand the hate… she’s been purposely designed to be hated, but that doesn’t disguise the complexity of her character that’s there for anyone who bothers to look.

    The self-loathing rather defines the character, but I didn’t originally appreciate the projection of her former self onto Millay in that (fantastic) confrontation. Good job on pointing that out.

    This article brings a lot of clarity to some of the murky thoughts I’d been having while trying (only fleetingly, admittedly) to understand Nina. ‘Twas a very interesting read.

  14. 14 Kaioshin Sama June 18, 2008 at 6:53 pm

    I’m still floored at the number of people who felt Nina was an underrated character like I did. Maybe I should try and do Suzaku next.

  15. 15 Tallrice June 19, 2008 at 12:19 am

    Well, first, just to repeat that, as it was for most, I gave myself to the blind disgust of Nina without really considering her too deeply before this article. A really great article, kaioshin sama ^_^

    But, of course, I have some comments to make. First, I have to agree with Masterkeyes2, I do not think Schneizel is particularly trying to project Euphemia’s image onto Nina. Of course, first thing to wonder here is why did Schneizel invite Nina as his escort in the ceremonies? At least the nobles were completely shocked (then again, is there anything that doesn’t shock them?…). Schneizel definitely sees her potential as a researcher (Lloyd said she was good after all) but I highly doubt he is trying to make a “Euphie Jr.” out of her, I do not think he was that hung up over Euphemia in the first place; although he grieves, with him you could imagine him saying “a pity” in a rather phlegmatic tone. He is more interested in what happened to Euphemia and why in the world she suddenly decided to go on an eleven killing spree with her personality as he, supposedly, does not know about geass. Nina here fits in as someone who is a rising star in his research facilities and someone who was close to Euphemia and as seen in the carriage scene agrees with him over her personality not being compatible with her actions. Nina has suffered a similar (though much more scarring) loss of Euphemia and Schneizel probably empathizes to an extent and pities her as well over this loss and therefore believes that letting her experience something of a noble experience would restore her confidence and demeanor.

    I do not think the reason Nina thought of Euphemia as her saviour was because, as DavyRam said, she thinks Euphie thought of her as particularly special and worthy, but rather, just because Euphie, simply acknowledged Nina as a person and friend and, more cynically, because Euphemia was, before anything else, a celebrity. After meeting Euphie during the hostage scene in ep 8 she, well, “saw a goddess” as she said in ep 20; now, to make an impression of anyone so quickly in a couple of minutes what counted was not the fact that Euphie protected her but that a princess protected her. In fact Nina knows nothing about Euphie. To Nina Euphemia is, perhaps before anything else a celebrity as one could possibly highlight by the shallow feelings incited through pictures in magazines (…). Nina only meets Euphemia directly in ep 20 so the encounter in ep8 does not completely pull her feelings. In ep 12, for example, it is obvious she is anxious when Millay is telling Shirley to confess her feelings to Lelouche, indicating (at least in my view) that she still has feelings towards Millay.

    It is easy to skip over Millay in Nina’s early formation because the strand fades from the story after Euphemia takes over as Nina’s idol later in the series. The new revival in R2 9 was quite effective and striking (I suppose it inspired this article, just to mention one effect). What is most striking about Nina’s conversation with Millay in episode 9 was that her attitude completely changed from her previous crush on her. I am not convinced, however, by kaioshin sama’s argument that what she says is supposed to reflect her self-hatred and personal criticisms. Of course, there is no doubt she hates herself, the most obvious time was when it was spelled out by Euphemia in ep20. I think it is merely exactly what she has come to think of Millay. What ticks her off in the conversation is Millay saying she is relieved because Nina has a stable employment. Nina is psychologically just what she is trying to say she is not, a child. I agree completely with kaioshin sama when you say that she has not found her entity- she is clinging to a “guardian” but can’t realize it. She moved from Millay in her earlier years- the daughter of the family under which her father worked and a childhood friend of higher status. Her celebrity/idol moved from Millay to Euphemia and when Euphemia betrayed her expectations with first the special administrative zone for “Japanese”, second with going on an inexplicable killing spree and third with dying, she reeled back in shock (well I am just repeating kaioshin sama… eps 24-25 breakdown, etc…) but to get back to the point, she is now utterly shocked and confused with the idea of a “guardian” she reviles this image in Millay (though I think she still likes Millay as a person but will not be able to reconcile with her) and is desperately trying to hope that Euphemia was right and precisely because of her confusion she is driven, literally, like a madman to pursue revenge- thus her outburst in going for zero AND the subsequent failure as she collapses in tears, obviously confused and depressed hoping to find an answer to her troubles. Back to Millay, her main anger is driven by Millay’s guardian like attitude but what makes her burst out is that she feels betrayed by this friend who “looks down on her” when Nina liked her. Millay does not look down on her per say but due to the nature of her politicized marriage looks down on the idea of love itself and Nina seems to be affected by this very negatively as Millay says things in earlier season 1 episodes (like 12) that are only dreams for Nina. And the hypocrisy is not what she sees in herself but rather the straightforward fact that Millay “plays around using the Ashford family as a shield” as she says. Or in another sense, plays around as a guardian when she herself is completely wrapped in the world of her mother’s choices, what Nina mentions next- her arranged betrothal to Lloyd. Nina is similar to a teenager rebelling against her parents. She is trying to find out why Euphemia who is her idol saviour and the only one she believes in (who, unlike Millay in her speech, risks her life to save her) somehow betrayed her.

    As for becoming Euphemia, I am not so sure. She wants to become strong in the way she perceived Euphemia to be but I am not convinced by the clothes… we had a scene in the laboratory before ep9 in normal researcher clothes(CG style) I think what she is wearing to the ball means little, what means more to me is that she has replaced Euphemia’s place in her mind with Schneizel, clinging again to a celebrity (again, greater than the last: Millay to Euphemia to Schneizel), this time for comfort and feeding her desperate hopes that Euphemia is the pure goddess she wants her to be.

    Another point of interest for Nina, though mainly symbolically is episode 21. Ironically, as Euphemia is pulled closer to zero, someone she considers a true friend, Nina becomes merely another of the ignorant mass of students who finds out Euphie is at the school when Shirley calls out Euphemia’s name. To Nina Euphemia is truly only a celebrity- they are separated by too much and this leads into her first stage of betrayal with Euphemia’s announcement of the special administrative zone of Japan.

    I think kaioshin sama’s ideas of Nina finding a relation with the sentiments of elevens that has made her hate them as she does herself is a bit hard to digest too. I think it is probably as masterkeyes2 remarked in that she probably had some sort of traumatic experience in her youth that made her fear elevens- think of them as war-mongering devils that reflects quite well the Japanese national complex that they do not trust themselves with rearmament. I think if she were to find similar qualities in them she would empathize not loathe them as happened in ep20 when Euphemia was able to gain confidence with finding a fellow struggling self-hater in Nina. Nina didn’t receive the same strength from Euphemia because she was relying on her and could not understand Euphemia in the way Euphemia could understand her as she was seeing herself clinging to her siblings.

    Nina is made to be slightly revolting for the viewers. I mean, you don’t usually give attributes like racism (not only but also against Japanese…), homosexuality, a scene with nihilism and a nervous breakdown peppered with frequent emotional outbursts and a complete lack of confidence to a lovable character, like tsundere Karen, or mysterious bishoujo CC. She is, without a doubt, however, because of this a fascinating character and with regards to hating the character itself and believing she should not be there in the first place is going a bit far.

    Just as a last point, I wonder if Nina is perhaps a good counterpart to Lelouch. Not to say they are similar in motives or actions or emotions but they both transform from “good-guys” per say to “bad guys” or slightly crazy mass-murderers. They reflect the same moral development through the story though provoking opposite feelings in the viewers. Anyway, I rambled on too much… I hope someone will actually read it start to finish… and for anyone who did, I appreciate it and apologize ^_^

  16. 16 Sol Falling June 20, 2008 at 2:12 am


    Wow…WOW. I was gonna say something on this topic but you said it all for me, and quite a bit extra besides. I think there might be *some* truth to Kaoishin and DavyRam’s suggestions that she thought Euphemia saw her as someone special but I still agree with pretty much everything you said. masterkeyes2 also brought up a good point in mentioning Millay and Nina’s conversation about the ghettos (it was actually episode 8):

    Nina: *jumps a little as their train enters a dark tunnel*
    Millay: It’s alright. There are lots of Britannian tourists in Kawaguchiko too. The security is good there. It’s not scary, like the ghettos.
    Nina: But…
    Millay: We’re here for you. We won’t leave you behind this time.
    Nina: O-Okay.

    That pretty much sums up the cause of Nina’s fear right there. The Japanese already have strong anti-Britannian sentiment, especially in the ghettos where the non-Honourary Britannians live. Nina probably got lost there (the mention of being left behind), and given her introverted and self-concious nature, was probably confronted rather aggressively about her presence. From there, her lack of real life experience and extensive imagination (correlating with her intelligence) would have escalated her fear to unbearable levels, and as we all know, the most memorable experiences are emotional ones, so Nina would have developed a conditioned response to the Japanese.

    Anyway, Kaioshin, do do a Suzaku post as well. There are certainly quite a few Suzaku sympathizers out there, though, outnumbering Nina’s easily (as Tallrice says, Nina is designed to be a repulsive character while Suzaku generally isn’t), so it might not become so much of a rallying place for supporters as this post was.

    Oh, though if any other character could use some deep thinking thrown her way, that would be Shirley, in my opinion. It might just be the shipper in me speaking, but post-Turn 08 the defense for Suzaku has become pretty clear cut and established so that anybody with half a brain could see where he’s coming from, while I still seem to be the only one who’s been looking at Shirley lately. 😛 I must say, I feel like the real ‘lone crusader against the masses’ here.

  17. 17 Orange July 23, 2008 at 7:37 am

    Back in the first season, Nina was depicted in a way that would make you hate her. Writer’s intention. But as for now she’s trying to move forward, probably in a bad way, yet one can’t deny that she’s gained a lot more confidence and stability with the support of Shneizel wich led me to believe that her character would eventually be confronted with her inner demons when he’ll make his move for the throne.

  18. 18 Kaioshin Sama July 23, 2008 at 8:03 am

    As of now I’d definitely agree Nina is still on a destructive path. As long as she’s with Schneizel I think she can’t be rescued from her own self-inflicted degradation, but Kanon is sort of looking like the type to pull her out of the situation. I’m thinking he’s probably actually a good guy as opposed to Schneizel who is obviously a Machiavellian type. Then again I could be proven wrong and it could turn out that Schneizel has actually ordered Kanon to provided her with false comfort and flattery.

  19. 19 Torque August 22, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    What I find funny about Nina is that she is arguably a racist, anti-semetic caricature. Her last name is Einstein, she has scraggly black hair and thick glasses, she is scheming, vengeful and obessed with power. Essentially everything the Nazis said Jews were, sans the greed.

    I am not convinced that anyone at Sunrise reads Mein Kampf every day, in fact I’m pretty sure that it was unintentional but it’s still there.

  20. 20 Clovis September 13, 2009 at 6:16 am

    I like Nina just fine and understand what she is going through and how much she suffered, but it was her obsession with Euphemia that suprised me. Schneizel uses her to make weapons of mass destruction, I personally think that after Euphemia’s death, Nina was controlled and used like a puppet and just couldn’t think straight.

  21. 21 Princess Blodeuwedd Si Britannia September 29, 2013 at 5:30 am

    I know I’m extremely late to the party, but I think Nina’s xenophobia becomes a lot more forgivable or at least understandable when you realise she was probably sexually assaulted/raped/gang raped by Elevens when she was a child or a young teenager.

  22. 22 Eric October 28, 2014 at 1:44 pm

    I’m so glad I found this (though a little late), ’cause I just finished watching Code Geass, and I really, really loved Nina. I just found her so fascinating (and pretty <3), and I could see myself in her place, so I was really sad at the amount of merciless hate she gets. And it pissed me off that the writers didn't give her more screentime to develop her more, and that they purposely made her an easy target for the fans to hate. Though I was really happy that at the end she resolved her conflicts and got the development she deserved… that didn't stop the hate though.
    Well, I hope that someday people will start understanding more this kind of characters, 'cause I love them.
    PS: Sorry if I have any grammar mistake, english is not my first language 😛

  23. 23 Mad. S February 4, 2015 at 7:21 pm

    Fron the Code Geass wikia :
    “Nina’s racial mindset is never fully explained in series, as instead of a feeling of superiority, she has an incredible fear and feeling of helplessness when faced by “Elevens”. However, certain dialogue in the series may hint that she had a traumatic experience with the Japanese sometime before the events of the series. According to Milly, it is implied that Nina once visited the ghettos and that she was a victim of assault by “elevens” at that time..”

    I think this may explain Nina’s xenophobia a bit.

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